Enjoy this free-flowing conversation with Joseph and Victor Shamas. Dr. Victor Shamas has devoted his life to exploring and understanding the experience of being fully alive. As a psychologist, author, lecturer, and spiritual adventurer, he offers a unique perspective on the role this type of experience plays in creativity and well-being.

Joseph and Victor discuss the role of nature in yoga and the relationship between nature and humans. Their conversation touches upon topics like knowing the true self, kaivalya in the ecological movement, and the need for spiritual culture.